Gluing Shit Together 101

3443120112_a057975df2When I came back to modeling in 2010, I initially had a lot of questions about glue. After all, my last experience had been building models as a kid, and the glue situation was pretty much as follows:

  • Testors tube cement, which was gooey and didn’t work very well
  • Testors liquid cement, which just didn’t work very well
  • Superglue with accelerator, which worked really well but fogged the hell out of everything
  • White glue, which was for wusses

My questioning period lasted about two weeks, until I discovered the awesome power of modern solvents. But across various forums and groups, I still see glue questions pop up all the time. So here’s a quick primer.

Do you want to glue plastic to plastic?

Use a liquid cement, also known as solvent cement, liquid welder, or other variations and combinations of these words.

This stuff works by literally melting plastic, so that it fuses together and cures as a single piece. It is stunningly effective, and if you choose the right welder and have a good join to work with, the entire process from application to cured takes maybe a minute, tops.

Trickier joins – where the parts are warped or misaligned and need some kind of force applied – may take a bit longer. But there should be zero need to clamp, rubber band, or otherwise force plastic together over extended periods of time with a good solvent welder.

How to Apply

Method 1 – Touch-n-Flow

The Touch-n-Flow is a marvel of a device. Basically a small glass tube with a syringe glued into one end, it allows you to “draw” the solvent along a join. Use one of those baby snot-sucker things to draw solvent into the tube, then get a good flow going and lightly draw the tip of the syringe over the join. Capillary action will pull the solvent out and it will flow into the join. Just take care to keep your fingers clear, unless you want your fingerprints baked into the plastic!

Method 2 – Microbrush

Scared of the Touch-n-Flow? Try a yellow-handled microbrush. For smaller stuff, or joins along edges (such as the leading and trailing edges of wings), I think the microbrush approach actually works better.

To use the microbrush, hold your parts together loosely, get the microbrush wet with solvent, brush it where it needs to go, and apply light pressure to the parts. Wait a few seconds. And done! Yes, it’s that easy.

Bonus: Clear Parts

Yes! You can glue clear pats with solvent cement! You want to be careful, but it’ll get you a much stronger connection that white glues, and won’t fog the way superglues can.

This Intruder’s windscreen was secured to the fuselage using MEK in a Touch-n-Flow

If you’ve got a windscreen that just doesn’t want to sit right, or needs pressure to do so, by all means consider using solvent on it.

What I Use

My go-to solvent is Methyl Ethyl Ketone, or MEK. You can buy it at any hardware store. It’s “hotter” than a lot of the modeling-oriented stuff, and far cheaper.

Other options:

  • Tamiya Extra Thin Cement
  • Tenax 7R
  • Plast-i-Weld (from the company that makes the Touch-n-Flow)

Drawbacks

Solvents will eat the hell out of paint. So, while you can glue painted parts together, expect a slurry of melted paint and probably a slightly longer curing time. And repainting.

Solvents don’t work with resin, photo-etch or even with different types of plastic. Stryene only. If this is confusing, look up above at how it works.

Do you want to glue other materials to plastic?

What should you use to glue photo-etch, resin, or metal to your build?

It depends! There are generally two go-tos – cyanoacrylate superglue, and PVA (white glue). Each has some distinct benefits and drawbacks.

CA superglue

CA is powerful stuff, and honestly it’s a valid choice for almost any “stick stuff to other stuff” need. It doesn’t melt-and-weld the way solvents do. It’s a straight-up adhesive. This means it excels at gluing different substances together. I personally try to limit my use of CA, but here’s a handy guide…

Good for

  • Gluing large things to other large things. Resin cockpits, that sort of thing.
  • Gluing anything that will be under tension. Biplane rigging. Heavy ordnance hanging off hardpoints. Superglue has excellent tensile strength. A good rule of thumb is…if you’re gluing something by sticking something into some kind of a hole, superglue is probably your best option. This is also true for PE that may have a tendency to lift from the surface it is being glued to.

Not good for

  • Clear parts (generally). Most CA glues do a kind of outgassing thing as they cure, and this fogs clear parts badly.
  • Fragile parts vulnerable to shearing forces. A shearing force is like your hand, accidentally knocking off a fragile antenna. Superglue doesn’t bend. At all. So a sudden application of shear will lead to small parts getting knocked off.
  • Things that require adjustment. If you have wobbly landing gear that require some adjustment to properly dial in…superglue won’t give you that time.

How to apply

Like glue. Apply to surface. Stick surface to other surface. For minute amounts of CA, I often use a toothpick or an old airbrush needle as an applicator.

For extra thin CA, you will want to use some kind of applicator, or else there will be a big mess. You can make one for yourself by twisting some fine wire around an airbrush needle and then snipping off a piece of the “ring” that’s formed. Or you can buy them. Load the applicator with CA and touch it to whatever you’re gluing. Capillary action will do the rest. It’s not quite as easy as that, but it’s not difficult to get the hang of it with a bit of practice.

What I use

  • Extra thin CA – brand doesn’t really matter. Whatever the hobby shop stocks. I honestly don’t use it for much beyond rigging work.
  • Loctite Ultra Gel Control – Those medium and thick CA glues? Screw ’em. This stuff is the best. It’s controllable, provides a few precious moments to correct alignment if needed, and it’s thick nature makes it easy to only use as much as you need.

Bonus – using CA for canopies

Okay, so I know I just wrote up above that CA is NOT good for canopies. But it can be, as I found out on Kitty Hawk’s AH-1Z Viper. The Viper’s canopy doors hinge off of a central “spine”, if you will, and the kit includes tabs to that effect. But they’re at weird angles. Too much tension for white glue to handle, so in desperation, I tested my trusty Loctite gel on some spare clear parts. And get this – it only fogs where you put it. So a little bit of CA and boom, canopies done.

PVA Glues

PVA glues are basically white glues…on steroids. They will hold better than Elmers, but since they’ve got some elasticity built in, they are not ideal choices for any part that’s under any kind of tension.

In my various bonehead attempts, I’ve had the tension from rigging wire pull eyebolts out of their holes. I’ve had a Bf 109 canopy flop completely over so its sitting flush with the fuselage side. I’ve had stubborn PE lift from its mating surface.

Not a good place to use PVA glue

That said, PVA is excellent for small parts that aren’t under tension. Control sticks, Landing gear and gear door support struts, missile fins, that kind of thing.

PVA glue is also very resistant to shearing forces. Or…not so much resistant as it bounces back easily. The elasticity that makes it suck in tension is a savior if you accidentally knock that antenna askew…it won’t go breaking and flinging off into the void, it’ll just fall over flat, and all you have to do to fix it is stand it back up.

What I use:

  • Gator’s Grip. There are a few others out there, but Gator’s Grip performs the best.

You’re gluing two different materials, they’re load-bearing and they have to be tough

Sometimes, you need your shit to hold. Gear struts on a very large aircraft, like HK’s 1/32 B-25 Mitchell.

Enter two-part epoxy.

This epoxy cures over about 15-minutes (you can get various cure times) and is rock solid once it sets. But it’s gooey as hell when you’re working with it, and it stinks like nobody’s business.

But when you really need it, there’s no substitute.

What I use:

Hobbytown USA 15-Minute Epoxy. I bought my set years ago and have maybe used a third of it.

13 Comments Add yours

  1. JV Roy says:

    Excellent overview, will share that to folks at the club. Will definitely give touch and flow a try. Completely agree on Gator’s Grip, too.

  2. Ted Briscoe says:

    Back in the day of Memorex (you remember recording tape), I used to operate the coating machine that lays a thin layer of brown “oxide” on clear mylar…..when the real thin mylar broke, MEK was used to clean up the mess. It was a great “cleaner” and did a great job. However,I suggest using some type of hand /finger protection if prolonged or contact usage as MEK will bleach out the pigments in your skin with continuous contact. It tool 3 years for my hands to match my wrists and forearms after I went into engineering and started to wear dress shirts. Safety back in the 60’s was just a hinderance to getting out production. So use with respect.

    1. Doogs says:

      Yes, MEK definitely demands respect. The way I work with it, I pretty much never come in direct contact with it unless I mess up.

  3. Alex Hadwen says:

    MEK has some pretty unpleasant qualities, the fumes are toxic so use in a well ventilated environment, although the quantities being used for scale modelling will be tiny. Just be aware anyway and Also, it is highly flammable so treat accordingly and keep the container in a cool dark place. Love the Little Pony Glue Factory by the way, brought a smile to my face although it traumatised my seven year old daughter….

    1. Doogs says:

      Yeah, MEK is not a good choice for a cocktail mixer. But as you say, the quantities being used are tiny and if you’re careful you’re never coming in direct contact with it. Treat it with respect and all should be well.

      As for flammability…pretty sure like 75% of the liquids around my bench are highly flammable!

  4. Just a little observation to solvents – they change the structure of the styrene a little bit and it takes some time to cure completely. If you use it on fuselage halves for example, subtle droops can occur over the time which is not pleasant view on NMF surfaces for example (happened to my friend on HK’s Mitchell). There are two ways to prevent the seam from detoriate – 1) let it cure for a couple of weeks and then use small amount of putty to cover droops; 2) let the seam cure, run it with the scribbing tool and fill the line with CA glue, sand it and it will stay perfect.

    1. Doogs says:

      Hmm. I’ve never had a seam deteriorate like that. I’ve had cases where the Touch-n-Flow has caused some little dips, but nothing w/ microbrushes.

  5. TJ Rohyans says:

    Be mindful of the MEK fumes though. Only use in a well ventilated room, and if you’re not an Adult, ask the parental units before using it. It can be very nasty stuff if abused.

    1. Doogs says:

      Yes, MEK demands respect. So do most things we use in this hobby.

  6. Marc D. (Ulvdemon) says:

    Excellent advice. I am sure people will still ask questions, but it does help to narrow down the choices and learn what is out there. Thank you for the advice.

  7. Adam England says:

    I made two modifications to my Touch N Flow applicator. First, I accidentally broke the glass tube the in half, but that turned out to be a good thing. I don’t need something that long with that much glue in it. Second, I cut down the applicator needle by about half. I found the flimsy needle wouldn’t stay where I wanted I when applying the solvent. Better control now.

  8. Lyle Tremblay says:

    I too used to swear by MEK and I was able to build many models using it. Was cheaper to buy than the Tamiya liquid cement etc. UNTIL I built the Trumpeter 1/48 FW200 Condor a few years ago. I don’t know what plastic they used for making that one but when I went to use the MEK on seams, the plastic literally disintegrated into plastic crumbly pieces. This happened three times on the model (and after an enormous amount of hair pulling), I had no other recourse but to purchase some Tamiya thin liquid cement. Everything went like a charm after that. The only thing I can think of is that it is just too hot and I do not use it anymore. Now I just swear at MEK – won’t touch the stuff. Just like paint systems, there is some engineering behind the glues as well and since I do not need the grief of repairing disintegrated areas of models, I will gladly pay the piper for the correct stuff. I was just lucky in the past when I used to use MEK, but no more. I hope this serves as a caution to someone who has not tried using MEK yet. TEST it first in on parts that you will not be using on the build – it could save you a ton of aggravation.

  9. Paul Rose says:

    We use MEK by the bucket load in the aviation industry mainly for cleaning and some stages of paint stripping/prep. Be extremely careful to not get any in your eyes as it will eat the surface of an eyeball as quickly as it eats styrene – just ask me how I know! Fortunately I only received a tiny speck in the eye but it gave me blurred vision and ‘snow blindness’ for a day.
    Other than that it’s magical for gluing models, one thing I found is that it is probably a little bit hot to use if the parts you’re gluing have been a tight press-fit in dry assembly, it can lop the pieces apart in front of your eyes.

    Thanks hugely for your amazing website Doogs..love your work mate, cheers from Australia 😉

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